2003 Saab 9-3 All Keys Lost Programming Tips

Question:
2003 Saab 9-3 all keys lost, Can xhorse vvdi key tool plus do this key?
I live in the US and they haven’t sold Saab here in a very long time.
Ii know Saab uses a tech2 as their scan tool? Can tech2 do the key?

Solution:
If USA cars are like EU cars both generations exist as 2003 model.
1) If it’s 1st gen it’s twice module under the seat. Need to read the Motorola processor and write key to t5.
2) If it is the second generation 9-3 it is CIM module out (behind the steering wheel) and need to read the eeprom. Read it in circuit, because it’s pretty bad stuck with protective coating. There is big chance to damage the board if you try to remove it.

You can read dump with vvdi prog and make file key with vvdi2.
GM tech2 can not do keys in all keys lost situation. Was working for Saab. The dealer solution is new module with keys. If you have used module with key programmed to it, it is pretty easy to adapt it to the car with tech2 tho.

FBS4 Mercedes Keys Programming Solutions

Let’s start with a hot topic: looking for a solution to Program FBS4 Mercedes Keys.

Yes , main dealer tool with main dealer security access.

The way for a locksmith to access these tools or is dealer only is: if you have very deep pockets and willing to pay the price Mercedes want then of course you can buy.

For example: the good way to do FBS4 keys on 2014 and up Mercedes-Benz vehicles: you go to the dealer and you pay a thousand dollars and you get the key done, that’s the only way, it’s no happening, so give it up, stick with 13 and down cars and get your ass to the dealer and get your FBS4 key and stop complaining and talking about how you know how to do it.

Experience for sharing:

even if u can afford the price for the equipment and software u still will need to have a LSID, for us only. outside the US I don’t know if they even allow aftermarket to do keys with their software.

The dealer do them all time, easy!

Mb service account, vat number, dbs certificate and correct insurance. Mercedes will authorize you. order FBS 4, to chassis via security portal or thur dealer.

Let’s take a look at what most locksmiths are going to do:

Conclusion 1:

I would put money on Abrites or Diagspeed to come up with a solution soon. And I would also put money on the Chinese swiftly copying that.

This article refers to Xentry online, AVDI Abrites, Diagspeed, VVDI MB, CGDI MB.

Conclusion 2.

The server needed to calculate is so expensive it’s likely gonna be a while before anyone comes up with solution. No way to pay for that server unless they charge $20k for the tool

Conclusion 3.

No way to do FBS4 except Mercedes Dealers

Someone told with an online xentry account will be ok

But online access need to have the permission to Programm fsb4 keys. Mercedes-Benz don’t allow personal to do it , If you get the permission all your personal data and stuff are required to the database. So Mercedes-Benz can recognized who and when programmed a fsb4 key and for what reason

then you will get in trouble

Only can do it by Mercedes Benz dealers now

This is not a technical issue

This is a problem authorized by Mercedes-Benz

So currently no equipment can support FBS4 Program .

Vvdi Key Tool Plus Bmw Cas3++ Istap Key Programming

Vvdi Key Tool Plus Bmw Cas3++ Istap Key Programming

1. 20min in bench easy without problems: Xhorse VVDI Key Tool Plus add keyless go BMW e92 cas3++ista-p.

Open cas for full back-up and generate from eeprom.
Personal experience: I have full back-up for Cas2 cas3 cas3++istap cas4 etc with hextag. For me is no problem but I don’t try in obd for lose time.

2. 10 min done via OBD: Xhorse Key Tool Plus program key BMW 2010 Cas3++ (ISTAP) done. Make sure you have enough power supply.
Insert the ignition key into ignition switch and connect the BMW 2010 vehicle and VVDI Key Tool Plus well.
Tap “Immo Programming” -> Europe -> BMW -> Automatically diagnose models -> Start Programming -> it is detected as CAS3++ (ISTAP) -> Generate key via OBD -> Read key information -> “Yes” to add new key -> obtain the key info.

Click on “Yes” to start flash CAS firmware.
Take away the dealer key from ignition switch and click on “OK”.
It will take several minutes to flash CAS firmware.
Insert key into ignition and switch on, then click on “OK”.
Authenticating success.
Start security login…
Take way the dealer key from ignition switch as the on-screen instruction guide.
Reading data success and then click on “Save”.

Select “Prepare dealer key with programmer”.
Select “Key 3 FFFFFFFF Enable”.
Click “OK” to learn that CAS key data is encrypted, support make dealer key for it.
Please input a working key into programmer (key tool plus).
Please put new key into programmer.
Click “NO” because the current key is not smart key.
Make dealer key success, click on “OK”.

Click on “Add key”.
This function add the newly generated key to the IMMO system, need to be executed “Generate dealer key – Use programmer” function to generate key.
Please put new key into programmer.
Click “NO” because the current key is not smart key.
Start security login…
Take way the dealer key from ignition switch and click on “OK”.
Reading data success.
Adding key.
Start security login…
Writing data success…

New dealer key success written to CAS system.
You can start engine with the new key now.

Alright, no matter which method on bench or via OBD, Xhorse VVDI Key Tool Plus can do a great job

If you want to know more about Bmw key programmer, please click Bmw Trouble Repair.

How to Program Renault AES 4A Smart Key AKL via OBD

As we know all programming 4A keys for renault clio v and captur are not stable with all tools, im508, im608, obdstar, Lonsdor and sometimes UCH crashes and dealer UCH may cost about 1000 Euro. Is it safe to do all keys lost via OBD?  How to retrieve PIN if bricks UCH (BCM)?

OBDSTAR X300 DP PLUS/X300 Pro4

As long as obdstar server is working everything is fine. Obdstar has done Renault flawlessly. Renault AES 4A smart key no worries including all keys lost. Just as a precaution, put a stabilized power supply or put the clamps on another car to start, during programming, in order to avoid breaking the Uch (BCM).
Don’t forget to use the green adapter, which will allow you to precode the new map.

Check OBDSTAR Renault AKL Test Report

The latest version 31.08 server stops working. Obdstar with the new updates, Renault vehicles from 2015 onwards will not working properly. Because when obdstar retrieves the Pin code on the server, it virginizes the HFM, and if the server does not work, you can no longer reprogram a new map, map you find yourself with a blank HFM, and impossible to reprogram a car.

Autel IM508/IM608/Xtool

IM508/Im608 used to work no issue with clio 4 and Captur. Work perfect and fast! I have made several as well (clio 4 2018 akl, 2015 Clio 4 etc).

In Clio IV, Capture and in dacia with BCM johnson is where there is data loss due to variations in voltage, it is best to back up the flash memory at the beginning of the process, the most stable equipment are autel and xtool for Renault.
Xtool x100 pad3 is the best programmer for Renault, id4A. Reed pin 1 minutes safe job, and add key, or all keys lost.   With Renault trafic from 2017, it works well with Xtool pad 3 as well.

Normally using a voltage stabilizer there should be no problem, just first make the memory backup dflash xtool and autel have that option in case something happens you can restore it. Remember to have good internet connection because the calculation is online.

But Autels servers are down either. There is a big problem with recovering the Pin code, when putting the virgin Hfm.
Because then, it is impossible to reprogram the client card and the new card. 2015 Clio 4 new card no luck on OBD, Pulled HRM read dflash get pincode programmed new card in minutes.

He should remove his connection system to the servers, because it’s too risky when it doesn’t work. Zedfull failed on obd also. The car breaks down and is forced to pull hfm read dflash dump get pincode or go to Renault’s to get the PIN code. For repair, you need to retrieve the PIN and ISK code by logging into the HFM and read the HFM Flash.
Or, pick up the code directly from a Renault dealership who wants to give it away with a cash payment.

Is it still possible to read the pin code directly on the HFM?

Yes because the flash inside the HFM is not corrupt.

If HFM’s a virgin, but yet you can’t retrieve the data from the HFM flash through the OBD socket.
You have to do it on the table, to be able to retrieve the information by welding some wires directly to the HFM, and using Abrites/vvdi prog/orange5, to read and retrieve the data.

*(If your hfm was a virgin you can’t get the code back
Virgo = no code nor isk
obdstar is back into programming, it deletes the original cards and does not program.
Reschedule the HFM first.
Check with Renault Ecuador Tool, and it was very virgin (HFM blank) and no card to register.
Then use vvdi prog to recover flash data on hfm.)
Renault Hrm On Table
HFM wiring diagram to vvdi-prog
RENAULT CLIO HFM MOUDLE
Example with Orange Programmer and Renault Ecuador Tool.

So avoid programming keys and cards that use the AES 4A transponder, otherwise, your vehicle will not start again and the client keys will not work either.

SMOK will do automatic reading, without internet connection (without server), to avoid major problems.  At least with Smok UHDS , you don’t need to connect to the internet, so you can do Clio 4 and Captur phase 2 (after 2015) and find yourself with Hfm virgin, because of their Obdstar or Autel servers that are constantly rubbing right now.

How to do Mercedes FBS4 key programming

How to do Mercedes FBS4 key programming

Support: FBS4 key programming

What Mercedes has FBS3 and which has FBS4?
Late 2015 is FBS4, Early production 2015 is still FBS3.
Not on the outer shell.. maybe the numbers under the battery cover will tell you..
You can also tell by the kind of car…

For sure FBS4… 222, 231, 205, 117, 2012 model year and up 212 and 218, 166 and 190
Note that FBS4 was added to 212 207 etc at mid 2013 (804) not in MY 2012

How to check your Mercedes has FBS3 or FBS4?

You can check Vedoc’s theft-relevant data section to ensure vehicle is FBS4; if the vehicle is FBS3 then there is no need to create an XSF case and a programmed key can be ordered as a normal TRP part
Pease ensure checkboxes are marked off

Also, you can check SA Codes on vehicle data card or use any suitable online vin decoder to see SA codes related to your vin. You are looking for the presence of SA code 803 or 804, depending on the Model this means vehicle is FBS4 related.
MY2013, Model 166 with Code 803, Models 207 and 212 with Code 804.

FBS4 models: April 2013 to Present, Model W212; July 2013 to Present, Models 166, 207, V212; September 2014 to Present, Model 218; November 2014 to Present, Models 117, 156; April 2015 to Present, Model 172; MY-AII, Models 205, 217, 218, 222, 231.

How to program FBS4 keys?

1. Xentry
FBS4 can use blank keys to program to the car with Xentry and an authorized online account.. Not all online accounts have access to program keys..

With genuine xentry and daimler fbs server.  Make FBS4 every day via OBD, very fast and easy.

2. Abrites
FBS4 Manager is a special function dedicated to the latest generation Mercedes- Benz FBS (DAS) related modules. It is where all the functions for FBS4 (around 2015+) vehicles will be developed. For the moment the focus of the function falls on its service related abilities. It allows the following for modules installed in Mercedes vehicles equipped with the FBS4 generation of DAS:
– Renewal of FBS4 7G Tronic units 722.9 (VGSNAG2). ALL BY OBD or internal CANBUS.
– Renewal of FBS4 CRD 3.X Engine Control Units. ALL BY OBD or internal CANBUS.

N.B. Please note that you will require an AVDI interface with an active AMS in order to use this special function. Absolutely no tokens required.

3. Diagspeed
Diagspeed announced the dates of FBS4 solution. But not confirmed yet. The Diagspeed has the reputation of being the best in the Mercedes world to make keys, Reset ECU’s and trouble shoot problems that a normal scan tool can not.  It is worth to take a gamble.

4. CGDI MB
CGDI can read FBS4 keys and knows if it’s in a working status or if the key is damaged;
That is CGDI can’t make calculation for FBS4

5. VVDI-MB
VVDI mb can disable FBS4 key function(Special function->FBS4 disable key)
It works for W166/W205/W213/W218/W222/W246 type.